Curse

kai4321 · Nov 02, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I am an E/Me and I use this build currently:

Immolate
Aura of restoration
Flare
Fire Attunement
Inferno
Liquid Flame
Fireball
Glyph of lesser energy

I only own Nightfall currently so it isn't very easy to find a good pve build to use and I want a pve build which is quite good both if I am doing stuff with heros and henchman but also actual players. I know I don't use any mesmer skills so any help with possibly using some to increase my effectiveness would be much appreciated but really any good build would be nice. I just would like help on making this a better build as I am quite confused on what to take and what not to take. Thanks in advance.

Lourens · Nov 02, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25

look here http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category:Nightfall_builds

kai4321 · Nov 02, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Both E/Mo builds on the site are for pvp and I actually want pve sorry.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 02, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

you could try a modified sf

Keekles · Nov 03, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

The B-surge one is still good in pve, just need to swap some skills out for others, but it works out just fine.

Here's something I came up with using only Core + Nightfall skills:

[skill]Blinding Surge[/skill][skill]Lightning Bolt[/skill][skill]Enervating Charge[/skill]Another damage skill[skill]Ward against Melee[/skill][skill]Glyph Of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Air Attunement[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]or Sunspear rebirth signet

And if you want to stay in fire: (I'm figuring these out with a pvp only me/e by the way :P)

[skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill][skill]immolate[/skill][skill]glowing gaze[/skill][skill]Savannah heat[/skill] or [skill]searing flames[/skill] or [skill]mind blast[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill] Res

If you use mind blast, you'll have a ridiculous amount of energy :P

Oh, and I don't know if my builds are good or bad, as I haven't tested them out, but they should work just fine.

kai4321 · Nov 03, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

So aura of restoration and flare are not good ? Thanks for that build seems pretty nice so I will definetly try it thanks.

Keekles · Nov 04, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I don't use Aura of Restoration, unless I'm in an area with enchantment removal, I swap out something for Aura as a cover enchant.

xDusT II · Nov 05, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Fourtunately Nightfall gives you the basics in build construction. The two elite's you'll want are Mind Blast and Searing Flames. You'll also have access to decent DD's such as Liquid Flame, Fireball, and possibly Immolate.
For E.Management you have your attunement and Glyph of Lesser Energy.
Combinging a few of those skills and adding in a decent res should give you a workable build.

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Originally Posted by kai4321

So aura of restoration and flare are not good ? Thanks for that build seems pretty nice so I will definetly try it thanks.

All I've found Aura of Restoration good for is covering other enchantment and providing a semi-decent counter to degen (If your LoD is asleep). Elementalists don't really have any worthwhile self heals so just concentrate on damage reduction.

You can use Mind Blast to power out Ward against Melee and Ward against Foes. You also have Blinding Surge at your disposal which is a very nice blind utility.

Div · Nov 05, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

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Originally Posted by kai4321

So aura of restoration and flare are not good ?

Flare is bad. You're better off spending energy casting useful spells, and using the time in between (while wanding) to regenerate your energy and cast more useful spells later on.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 05, 2007, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Aura is a useful cover enchantment. though there's not really enough enchantment removal to warrant it in nightfall, if you plan on picking up EoTN you'll find the value of having one go up significantly.

Sav heat is, and always will be a terrible elite, as you're not getting much more mileage out of it than if you were just to run two heats, so it becomes wasteful to think that you'd need an elite version. Mind blast is great, but because you don't really have any money spell to power out with it (read: rodgort's invocation) your best bet is to run a sf bar and get an ele hench or two to run it with you.

kai4321 · Nov 05, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Ehm since I dont know much abbreviations and stuff what is SF? I have heard of it but I don't really know what it is.

Pyro maniac · Nov 05, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

SF = [skill=big]Searing Flames[/skill]

Cap [skill]Mind Blast[/skill]
It's a great spell, and you really can't do things wrong with it
Just use it like flare, but you notice you'll have huge energy pools where you can use spells like [skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill] or even [skill]Heal Party[/skill] if you like

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 05, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

But can't you get Mindblast only later on in the game?

Keekles · Nov 05, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

You can always unlock it via faction and purchase an elite elementalist tome.

Pyro maniac · Nov 05, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

But can't you get Mindblast only later on in the game?

there are some easy caps in eotn

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 06, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

there are some easy caps in eotn

That made me XD. while the unlock idea works i was just talking about PVE only players the ones who never even use PVP. they hear balth faction and go WTF whats that cause they never use it. They still have the little from pre searing if they hvae proph.

Pyro you do relize that he has NIGHTFALL ONLY

Tatyana K · Nov 07, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

I have similar problem, I just started (10 days ago) Nightfall and I will not get another one until I finish this one so I need PvE build that can get me through missions without many repeating.

Current skills I have are

flare
Glowing Gaze
Fire Attunement
Fire Storm
Fireball
Flame Djinn's Haste
Inferno
Liquid Flame
Meteor

+ elite Mind Burn
And Sandstorm (earth)

I have 16 points in fire (runes), 12 in energy storage and I think 3 in earth.

Currently I'm using

Aura of Restoration
Fire Attunement
Flame Djinn's Haste
Fire Storm
Liquid Flame
Fireball
Mind Burn

last slot is reserved for signets (Signet of Capture, Sunspear Rebirth Signet, or whatever I need at that moment)

Is it a good combination, or can I make better from spells I have?

I'm going skill hunting ASAP - so what do you suggest to capture first?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 07, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Mindblast if you are far enough.

Marverick · Nov 07, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill] get that. Mind Blast is really quite far.

With Nightfall only though your best bet for fire would probably be [skill]Searing Flames[/skill]. You can't use Rodgort's, and thus you won't get much out of Mind Blast damage-wise unless you want to run support builds.

smrandom · Nov 07, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

You might consider something like this:

[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Liquid Flame[/skill][skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill]

Last two slots are open. I assume that one is reserved for a resurrection skill of your choice. The last slot can be used for a CapSig, Intensity (NF PvE skill), a utility skill like Blinding Flash or Gale, or a skill from your secondary profession. When you have the chance to cap Mind Blast, I'd recommend doing that and putting on your bar instead of SF. You can dump GoLE at that point and free up another slot for utility. When I say utility, I don't mean a self-heal (i.e, no Aura of Restoration, no Healing Breeze).